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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2016.03.30 20:03:53 -
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They got a straight damage buff a while back. Caracals, cerbs and sacs use them plenty. Perhaps the problem is they just suck on drakes?
Medium beams see less use than hml's.
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Daichi Yamato
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Posted - 2016.03.31 22:42:24 -
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Before this derails into another one of those threads, missiles will not work in the same way as turrets. I can just as easily create situations where heavy missiles will deal better damage than medium beams and vice versa.
As far as usage goes, indicators such as zkillboard suggest to me that medium beams are used less. My own personal experience indicates so as well and CCP's damage graph puts energy weapons below missiles for all medium sized ships (i am aware that the latter includes rlml's and pulses)
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2016.04.01 16:01:18 -
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Seems to me you think rlml's should be nerfed.
I doubt heavies need an application buff. For one, rapid heavies do quite well in that regard, even against frigs. Application needs to remain low to allow for rhml's and for HAMs to be better at application. You certainly dont need 90% application against a double webbed frig wholly ****. Blasters dont always get that, i dont think HAMs get that. Heavies get longer range than lights, and especially t2 lights. Though that may not be good for your small gang play (medium long range turrets often arent), it is clearly useful to others.
Surprised that you think hml's eat a load of fitting. They're pretty generous compared to turrets.
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2016.04.03 14:46:46 -
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you cant buff the application of hml's without buffing the application of rhml's.
HAMs dont deal 90% damage to a double webbed mwd frig. Doubt your gonna get that kind of application from heavies. Surely thats what rlml's are for anyways.
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2016.04.04 02:06:09 -
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The nature of missiles vs turrets will never make everyone happy. They cant be compared in a way that suits everyone. Leading to some disingenuous comments.
@ ginger sith. Missiles deal more damage at range. Turrets deal more damage close up. Turrets apply damage better at range. Missiles apply damage better up close. Missiles apply damage irrespective of the shooters piloting but are also simple to mitigate (fly fast).Turrets depend on shooters piloting vs target piloting.
It should be plain to see why this is a balancing nightmare. Its like comparing apples and oranges. We could be right on the money but some people's opinions will still differ (even when it comes to applying 90% damage to a double webbed mwd frig).
@ nevyn Assuming all else is equal, a target can just as easily maneuver to mitigate damage from a turret as a shooter can to increase it. It really depends on the circumstances.
Both pilots could web and scram eachother down and deal full damage with missiles to eachother, but be so close that they'd miss eachother with turrets.
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2016.04.04 15:09:04 -
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@nevyn 'when piloted sensibly' is irrelevant when the target can just as easily counter the shooters piloting.
@donna Since those stats are dependent on the MISSILE and not the launcher. No you cant. Range included. Launchers only affect rate of fire and magazine size.
What there maybe however is a way to put modifiers on the rhml's, like a built in guidance disrupter.
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